Tuesday, January 12, 2010
How Prevelent Is Our W Female Haplogroup
Nathan Goldfoot married Hattie Jermulowske. Her dna test shows that she is a rare W haplogroup and she came from Suwalki, Poland. I don't know where Nathan came from other than most likely Lithuania, but reported on his one census of 1910 that he came from "Russia."
The W haplogroup is only 0.0190 in Russia. 135 women tested were W's.
In Poland is was 0.0476. Only 16 women were tested who had it from there so far. However, in http://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/v15/n4/fig_tab/5201764t2.html#figure-title, W was 3.1% in a Polish Jewish population and 3.7% in a non Jewish Polish population, and 2.7 in a Russian Jewish popuation while it was 2% in a Russian population.
As far as we know, Nathan and Hattie met in Council, Idaho, an off the way place in the mountains that was a mining town and hard to get to. I believe the train had just recently arrived there, which is probably how Nathan got there. They married November 20, 1905. W's originated around 20,000 years ago in the Altai Mountains of Turkey, Siberia and Mongolia, and that's exactly where Nathan's Q1b haplogroup of 1,000 years ago originated. I thought it was pretty unusual for these two to get together in Idaho.
We do have high percentages of W's in Caucasian, Persian and Turkic speaking populations.
In Iran, W's come in at 2.72% or 58 out of 2131. The Gilaki have the highest W percentage at 7.95% or 7 out of 88.
P.S. 4/28/2010: The oldest W found so far as reported by Mark Weide is from Unseberg, Germany who died in 6550 BCE. This was in the late Mesolithic era. W entered Europe with farmers from India on through the Balkans to the rest of Europe as it is understood at this time.
Reference: Peter Fischer
The W haplogroup is only 0.0190 in Russia. 135 women tested were W's.
In Poland is was 0.0476. Only 16 women were tested who had it from there so far. However, in http://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/v15/n4/fig_tab/5201764t2.html#figure-title, W was 3.1% in a Polish Jewish population and 3.7% in a non Jewish Polish population, and 2.7 in a Russian Jewish popuation while it was 2% in a Russian population.
As far as we know, Nathan and Hattie met in Council, Idaho, an off the way place in the mountains that was a mining town and hard to get to. I believe the train had just recently arrived there, which is probably how Nathan got there. They married November 20, 1905. W's originated around 20,000 years ago in the Altai Mountains of Turkey, Siberia and Mongolia, and that's exactly where Nathan's Q1b haplogroup of 1,000 years ago originated. I thought it was pretty unusual for these two to get together in Idaho.
We do have high percentages of W's in Caucasian, Persian and Turkic speaking populations.
In Iran, W's come in at 2.72% or 58 out of 2131. The Gilaki have the highest W percentage at 7.95% or 7 out of 88.
P.S. 4/28/2010: The oldest W found so far as reported by Mark Weide is from Unseberg, Germany who died in 6550 BCE. This was in the late Mesolithic era. W entered Europe with farmers from India on through the Balkans to the rest of Europe as it is understood at this time.
Reference: Peter Fischer
